MAJOR GENERAL HANK
TAYLOR: Good morning. Thanks for being here. Each day that we've been
able to provide you updates, we're glad that we're able to do that, and as from
previous days, I'll, no exception, give you an operational update, then turn it
back over to Mr. Kirby.
Don't have a lot of additional detail to offer you about the attack yesterday at
the Abbey Gate, but I can confirm for you that we do not believe that there was
a second explosion at or near the Baron Hotel; that it was one suicide bomber.
We're not sure how that report was provided incorrectly, but we do know -- it's
not any surprise -- that in the confusion of very dynamic events like this can
cause information sometimes to be misreported or garbled. We felt it was
important to correct the record with you all here.
You've now seen that we've updated our casualty lists to include a -- a 13th
service member killed in action. Our thoughts and prayers continue to go out to
the families and to the teammates that we have lost. This is a devastating time
for these Gold Star families, a title no one wants to hold, but we absolutely
hold in the utmost respect.
I can also report that two flights landed at Ramstein today carrying our wounded
personnel from the attack. These personnel have been transferred to Landstuhl
Regional Medical Center and are receiving care.
In Kabul, commanders on the ground continue to assess the risk and the dynamic
situation there, as they have -- have been since the beginning. Force protection
remains paramount with the continued threat.
We've continued the evacuation mission yesterday, as you saw -- as you reported
last night, and I'll give you an update of how things have gone in the last 24
hours. Yesterday, 35 U.S. military aircraft, 29 C-17s and six C-130s departed
with approximately 8,500 personnel. Combined with 54 coalition aircraft
departures, an additional 4,000 personnel left Kabul for various intermediate
staging bases; 89 flights total yesterday out of Kabul, totaling approximately
12,500 evacuees now safely out -- out of Afghanistan in a 24-hour period. In the
past 24 hours, more than 300 American citizens were evacuated from Afghanistan,
bringing our updated total to approximately 5,100. We continue to maximize our
efficiency, and since U.S. and coalition forces began the evacuation,
approximately 111,000 evacuees have departed safely.
The State Department consular officers continue to screen and process people
arriving at gates around Kabul. Some gates have been closed that we reported,
but American citizens, SIV applicants and vulnerable Afghans who have the
designated and proper credentials will continue to be processed for departure
from the airfield. There are still approximately 5,400 individuals on the
airport as of this report, awaiting for flights out of Afghanistan.
We have the ability to include evacuees on U.S. military air -- airlift out of
Afghanistan until the very end. The Department of Defense has the continued
responsibility to support the State Department in the ongoing movement evacuees
through our intermediate-staging basis and safe havens all the way to the United
States in the coming days and weeks.
On that topic, here's a quick update on the military installations and our safe
havens and staging bases in CENTCOM and you -- and EUCOM that are helping
transition all these flights. CENTCOM locations, including Al Udeid Air Base,
steadily receive, process and transfer passengers to follow-on locations in
Europe and the United States. Today, EUCOM will receive about 19 flights and
approximately 19 -- or, and approximately 5,000 passengers in Germany, Italy and
Spain, including the Naval Station Rota. In turn, six flights will transport
about 3,300 people from Europe to the United States.
I cannot say enough how important the contribution of our allies and our
partners has been in this massive global operation.
Additionally, more evacuees continue to arrive stateside and are moving to
designated installations throughout NORTHCOM. The NORTHCOM commanding general,
General VanHerck, will provide a more focused briefing on this extensive effort
in his brief later today.
In conclusion, I'll reiterate what General McKenzie said yesterday. There are
more than 5,000 U.S. service members in harm's way, saving as many people as
they can. It's a noble mission. We have seen firsthand how dangerous that
mission is, but ISIS will not deter us from accomplishing this mission. We
appreciate your thoughts and prayers for all of our service members who are
carrying on this mission today. Above all, we remain focused on evacuating
American citizens and other personnel designated by the Department of State,
safeguarding the lives of those whom we are providing assistance in keeping
American troops safe. Thank you.
PRESS SECRETARY JOHN F. KIRBY: OK, I just have one other thing to add, and it's
a good segue from what the General ended with. Today, the Department of Defense
can announce that it has authorized Marine Corps Base Quantico, Virginia, Fort
Pickett, Virginia and Holloman Air Force Base, New Mexico to provide additional
support to the U.S. mission to evacuate Afghan Special Immigrant Visa
applicants, their families and other at-risk individuals.
These -- these installations joined Fort Lee, Fort McCoy, Fort Bliss and Joint
Base McGuire-Dix in providing this support. The Defense Department will continue
to support the State Department in providing temporary housing, sustainment and
support inside the United States for a capacity of up to 50,000 Afghan Special
Immigrant Visa applicants, their families and other at-risk individuals.
U.S. Northern Command will coordinate the details of all of this with the State
Department, the Department of Homeland Security, and of course the Department of
Health and Human Services, as necessary, and it will be providing -- provided
under presidential drawdown authority to the maximum extent possible, with
additional support being provided on a reimbursable basis.
And as General Taylor let you know, we had General VanHerck, the commander of
U.S. Northern Command, coming into the briefing room with you later this
afternoon. He'll be able to provide a lot more context on that.
With that, we'll take questions. Lita?
Question: This is probably for the -- for the General. The President has said he wants
to, vowed, basically get back at ISIS. How difficult will it be for the U.S.
military to do that type of operation, considering the lower number of troops
and the difficulty in getting intelligence on the ground?
And then I don't -- I don't know if this is you or -- or John -- can you just
talk about the number of people that we'll -- we'll see getting processed over
the next several days? Is that number going to gradually go down? Do you have
out the number of people that you think you're going to or what's your ballpark
MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: All right, on the first question, on the -- our capabilities
and abilities to protect ourselves or to also -- to conduct the strikes, like
you said -- as I've said all along, we have resources with the CENTCOM
commander, with the commanders on the ground, and the capabilities to allow us
to execute any type of those operations as those are required to do.
MR. KIRBY: So Lita, again, we're -- we're still planning on ending this mission
at the end of the month. And as I said the other day, as we get closer -- and we
are getting closer -- you're -- you're going to see us begin to make those
muscle movements to pull out our troops and some of our equipment, as
appropriate with any retrograde.
What we want to do is preserve as much capability for as long as we can, both in
terms of the security footprint but also in terms of the ability, as the General
alluded in his opening statement, to moving out evacuees. Lives are still the
priority and -- the lives of our troops and of course the -- the lives of
evacuees and trying to continue to get as many out as possible.
So there will be a balance over the next few days as we continue to process
through that transition, as we continue to -- as what we call retrograde, and --
and I can't give you a specific number on any given day but I think you'll see
us adjust as necessary to make sure that we're achieving that proper balance,
but we will be able to fly out evacuees right up until the last moment. That's
going to be the goal.
And if I may -- you didn't ask this but I want to take the advantage --
opportunity to convey to all of you that as we did before, when we began a
retrograde, a withdrawal back in April, we were very judicious about the detail
that we were putting out, and I'm -- just want to level set with all of you that
you're going to see us become more judicious now going forward, as we get closer
to the end of the month, about what information we're giving you in terms of how
many troops are on the ground.
I would not expect us to be giving that number out in -- going forward and what
the capabilities are and where they are and what they're doing. We're going to
be very, very mindful of the operational security element of this and I think
yesterday is a stark, grim reminder of why that's important going forward.
I know that's not what you asked but I wanted to take an opportunity to get that
Question: John, how can you say with such certainty and how can General McKenzie say
with such certainty that the Taliban were not involved in this suicide bombing?
I understand that you're reliant on them for protection around the airport but
are you ruling out them being involved because you're so dependent on the
Taliban right now?
MR. KIRBY: Actually, I didn't hear General McKenzie put it that way, Jen. In
fact, I think in -- in one of the questions he got -- and I think it was Idrees'
-- you know, he said -- Idrees asked "was there a failure?" and the General said
"of course there was a failure somewhere, obviously," and he even alluded to the
fact that it -- it could've been at a -- a Taliban checkpoint.
So I don't -- we've -- we've not been certain about that at all. There will be
an investigation, we'll try to learn as much as we can about what happened, and
I really don't want to get ahead of that process.
Question: And in terms of ISIS-K, how many ISIS-K prisoners were left at Bagram and are
believed to have been released from the prison there? And why weren't they
removed before the U.S. pulled out, to some place like Gitmo?
MR. KIRBY: Well -- well, I -- I don't know the exact number. Clearly, it's in
the thousands, when you -- when you -- when you consider both prisons, cause
both of them were taken over by the Taliban and emptied, but I -- I couldn't
give you a precise figure.
And as for emptying out, remember -- I mean, we were turning things over to
Afghan National Security Forces. That was part of the retrograde process, was to
turn over these responsibilities. And so they did have responsibility for those
prisons and the bases at which those prisons were located.
And, of course, as the Taliban advanced, the -- the -- we didn't see the level
of resistance by the Afghans to hold some territory, some bases, and
unfortunately, those were bases that the Afghans didn't hold. But all of those
responsibilities were turned over, in accordance with the retrograde plan back
Question: I think this is more to the General -- yesterday, General McKenzie talked
about wanting to talk to the Taliban about pushing the perimeter back as -- as
one of the sort of ways to avoid another incident. Has that happened? And
[inaudible] you can't say by how much but has it significantly been pushed back?
And what are you seeing in terms of flow to Abbey Gate? Is it less people being
allowed in? Is it still a rush of people, which could lead to a similar
incident? What do you see today at the gates?
MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: So what I can report as my discussion with the commanders
there on the ground is that multiple activities have taken place to increase the
force protection, specifically in communication with the Taliban of how they are
executing their checkpoint operations and communication within there. So I -- I
would say there's been multiple -- I don't want to go into the details of the
exact -- of what -- that communication but I know that has happened.
And what we have seen today is a -- is a little lessing (sic) of what we would
say total capacity of people in and around gates.
MR. KIRBY: Yes, Nazira?
Question: Thank you, John. As Jen said, I just -- since yesterday, people were worried
about everything about the Taliban. They were psychologically under a lot of
situations, some of my family they target and tortured by the Taliban. But since
yesterday, that ISIS created, Afghan people are more -- more worried. Do you
think that this - another civil war was started in Afghanistan? That's what most
of Afghan people question, and everybody now want to leave the country, because
now it’s doubled -- before was only Taliban. Now, ISIS also show up one more
time their activity. Do you think that another civil war [inaudible] start soon?
MR. KIRBY: Nazira, before -- before I try to answer that question, I do want to
take the opportunity, on behalf of the Department of Defense, to also make sure
that we express our condolences for the Afghan people who suffered in
yesterday's attack. We know that there were a number of killed and wounded
Afghan civilians at the airport, and that there are families that are dealing
with the same devastating, terrible news that now Gold Star families here in the
department are dealing with. So again, on behalf of the secretary, we offer our
condolences and thoughts and prayers.
I -- I wish I had a crystal ball. I wish we could know for sure what's -- what's
going to happen in Afghanistan. We don't. We -- we obviously don't want to see
the country torn asunder through civil war. But -- but that's why whatever the
future of Afghanistan is from a governance perspective, we are going to stay
engaged with the international community to make sure that Afghans --
Afghanistan's leaders are held to proper account for the way they are governing,
and that Afghan -- Afghanistan's neighbors also try to play a -- a constructive,
productive role in whatever the future of Afghanistan is going to be. Though we
will not have a military presence there, the United States government will still
want to see what -- what we can do in the international -- with the
international community to make sure that -- that Afghans can -- can have the
best of all possible outcomes for their future. But I -- I just -- I think it
would be foolish for us to try to be too predictive about what's going to happen
Question: You have not changed the policy again to be involved again in Afghanistan?
MR. KIRBY: The commander-in-chief has made a very clear decision that it -- it
is time to end America's involvement on the ground in -- in a war in
Afghanistan, and -- and we're going to execute that decision, as we should.
Question: John, for the record, would you clear up the confusion over the service
affiliation of the -- the dead. It sounds like we -- we have a total number of
MR. KIRBY: That's right.
Question: ... but the breakdown within the 13 is not clear. The Marine statement said
"at this time, 10".
MR. KIRBY: Yeah.
Question: So can you tell us what it is? And then I have a question for the general.
MR. KIRBY: Actually I'm -- I'm not able to break it down specifically right now,
David, and I want to defer to the services to speak to their specific number of
casualties. As you can imagine, they are having to make -- they -- they're
having to have difficult conversations with a number of families, and we here at
the department don't want to get ahead of that process. So I -- I just -- I
think on that one, I would just defer to the services.
Question: And General, you didn't answer the question about whether the Taliban has met
General McKenzie's request to push the perimeter further out, away from the
airport, and he also said that he was going to ask them to close some specific
roads. Have they done...
MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: Sorry if I didn't add that level of specificity, but I know
those -- just exactly what General McKenzie had said had been passed to his
commanders to have those discussions with the Taliban to take not only those
specific measures, as he mentioned there and you mentioned, but other activities
that will increase the security and -- and the facilitation of those getting
Question: How do you know if they haven't?
MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: To the discussions?
Question: No, no. [inaudible]...
MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: Oh, no, I cannot report at this point what actions the Taliban
have taken in the last -- but I know that those discussions have -- are
happening in the -- that have happened.
MR. KIRBY: OK, I've got to get to the phones a -- a little bit here. Lara
Seligman, Politico? Are you there, Lara? OK, we'll come back to you, Lara, if
you're not able to pipe in there.
Question: Hi, John. Can you hear me?
MR. KIRBY: Sure.
Question: OK, yesterday, the president said, "We're going to be in a circumstance where
I believe numerous opportunities will continue to provide access for additional
persons to get out of Afghanistan..." -- this is after the 31st -- he said, "...
either through means that we provide or are provided through in cooperation with
the Taliban." Can you give me a sense of the planning you're doing to take that
direction to heart? And what are the military implications of the president's
desire for still removing people after the 31st? Will there be continued talks
with the Taliban, staging a force in the region to get more people out, et
MR. KIRBY: Yeah, Tony, I think my colleagues at the White House and at the State
Department have addressed this question before. I mean, we -- the interagency,
the -- the U.S. government will pursue a variety of -- of ways to help any
Americans who want to get out after our military presence at the airport has
ended to be able to help them get out, and it's -- while Afghanistan is a unique
case, it's -- it's not completely separated from the larger effort that the
United States government pursues all over the world when -- when we -- when we
know that Americans are at special risk. We -- we do what we can to get them
out, and that doesn't necessarily involve the United States military. So I -- I
don't -- I'm not going to -- certainly wouldn't speculate one way or another
about what -- what's going to happen after this particular mission ends. But I
would not envision a significant military role in that effort, going forward.
Question: Going back to what David was asking, if the U.S. military knew that there
were improvements to be made such as closing roads and pushing the perimeter
back further, why wasn't this discussion engaged in before -- in -- in -- before
the attack? Why wasn't the point pressed? Why weren't these improvements asked
for by the Taliban? Because you're saying General McKenzie was very clear. He's
asking for this now.
MR. KIRBY: Barb, I'll tell you, from -- from the very get-go, even before we had
a specific threat assessment, force protection was of paramount importance to
General McKenzie, to -- certainly, to the Secretary, and I -- and I don't want
to speak for the Chairman, but I think I can -- for General Milley, as well in
this regard. I -- I can tell you that from the very beginning, force protection
was always at the -- at the front of everybody's mind, and force protection, as
you well know, as particularly in a dynamic environment, is something that
changes all the time.
And so as we got more information, we made adjustments to force protection
measures to try to do the -- the best we could at what we thought were the
specific threats we were facing. And you heard the General talk yesterday about
even overwatch in the air. I mean, there was a lot of effort being done, which
included -- as the General said, included daily communication with the Taliban
about the nature of the threat and -- and sharing with them the appropriate,
relevant information about what we -- what we knew.
Now -- now clearly, all of that effort -- and there was a lot of effort --
clearly fell short in some way because this attack was able to be perpetrated,
and we did suffer -- as -- as well as our Afghan friends, suffered casualties.
We're going to do the forensics on this, Barb, and clearly try to figure out
what went wrong, cause clearly something went wrong, but it would be
irresponsible if we didn't act immediately to just -- to -- to double down and
make sure that we were -- that -- we were being as anticipatory as possible
because we still believe there are credible threats -- in fact, I'd say specific
credible threats -- and we want to make sure we're prepared for those.
And I -- I don't think -- and I -- I'm sure you can understand that -- that just
-- just by virtue of the fact that -- that we may be taking other steps doesn't
mean that -- that they -- that they would've necessarily been the proper steps
for what we saw yesterday.
We have additional information and so what I would tell you is we're -- what
you're saying us act on, to the degree we can talk about it, is based on
information that we have, and I think I'd -- I think I'd leave it at that.
Question: [inaudible] say you have additional information, can you tell us do you mean
you have developed additional information since the attack? Do you still believe
something is potentially imminent?
MR. KIRBY: I thought General McKenzie covered it very well with you yesterday.
We -- we certainly are prepared and would expect future attempts, absolutely,
but I won't get into the specifics of what those are and why we're doing what
Question: Do you have additional intelligence since the attack?
MR. KIRBY: We -- we -- again, without talking to intelligence, we're monitoring
these threats very, very specifically, virtually in real time, and I think you
can understand I wouldn't get into more detail than that.
Question: Two questions for General Taylor. In the wake of the attacks, have the
commander -- U.S. commanders on the ground had improved communications with
Taliban commanders, not only in improving security but potentially in getting
SIV applicants or Afghans through the gates?
And second -- secondly, in the wake of the attack, since ISIS is also a problem
for the Taliban, is there potential there to coordinate to actually target ISIS?
MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: So when we -- when we say "improved communication," I just
want to -- I would answer that with we are continuing, you know, communication.
So improve -- I would say every day that is improving because we have more
repetitions, we're -- we're able to continue to have open lines of
So the specificity of what is being passed back and forth tactically to allow
for a better security environment I would say is improving because those
repetitions are happening and the understanding of the Taliban, of what needs to
take place, is being reinforced. And so I think yes.
And then your second question of passing on specifics, like what are we looking
for here, what is the threat that we need you to look for, yes, that is
absolutely being passed from the commanders on the ground to those Taliban
commanders to ensure, as Mr. Kirby said, you know, things like yesterday, we
understand what to look for, we understand what the threat is to try to prevent
Question: Specifically to target ISIS, though?
MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: To any -- those threats -- yeah, those ISIS threats that could
Question: OK. And then secondly, there was a -- a secondary explosion later yesterday,
where U.S. forces were doing controlled detonations of equipment. Could you talk
about the type of equipment that is being destroyed in the retrograde so you
don't have to fly it out or it doesn't fall into the wrong hands either?
MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: Yeah. So the -- the actual specifics of what type of equipment
was destroyed, I -- I don't have that, but you -- what we have said is that, you
know, the commander has the authority there to destroy equipment that -- that
they feel is responsible.
So as we talked about controlled detonations -- I think that was your specific
question -- that's what we call that, a controlled detonation, that could take
place if the commander decided to destroy some type of equipment.
MR. KIRBY: I'd only add that, as I mentioned earlier, lives are going to be the
priority, Tara). So there will be -- you can expect that there will be other
equipment and -- and material things that will not be brought back with us.
We're going to do this in a judicious way. Some stuff will obviously come back
with us but for the aircraft that are departing, as we get closer to the end of
the month, we want to prioritize passenger seats as much as possible.
So you're going to continue to see things disposed of in a responsible way as --
as we get closer to the end of the mission and I think that -- that people would
expect us to do that.
Question: John, what's the department's assessment -- that -- of the capability of
ISIS-K? And is there any concern that they can use Afghanistan to launch attacks
against the United States post-August 31st?
MR. KIRBY: Well, obviously they're a serious terrorist threat and that was
obvious -- brought home to us in pretty stark ways yesterday. We -- we take the
threat very, very seriously.
I -- I don't want to -- I'm not going to speculate about future threats. What I
will tell you -- and the President has made this clear, the Secretary has made
it clear to the leadership at the Pentagon -- that we're going -- we're not
going to allow attacks on the homeland to emanate from Afghanistan again like
they did 20 years ago. And we do have over-the-horizon counter-terrorism
capability available to us to make sure that that doesn't happen, and I think
I'd leave it at that.
Question: Do you believe -- do you believe that the Taliban can stand to ISIS-K, can
MR. KIRBY: I -- I think that the threat by -- from ISIS is real and nobody wants
to see that threat grow. I -- I cannot speak -- would not begin to speak for
Taliban capabilities or Taliban intent. Obviously they -- there's -- there's
significant animosity between these two groups and they don't share interests.
I'll -- but I -- I'm not -- it would be foolish for me to try to predict the --
the degree to which the -- what operations the Taliban may conduct against
All I can tell you is the direction that this department has is to -- to not
allow attacks on the homeland to emanate from Afghanistan again, and -- and we
are committed to that, as well as counter-terrorism operations elsewhere around
the world because the threat has metastasized outside Afghanistan to other
places where we also have to maintain a focus and a degree of over-the-horizon
Let me go back over here. In the back there?
Question: Thanks, John. Two questions. First, can you speak to any rescue ops that have
happened since the attack?
MR. KIRBY: I -- I don't think there's been any -- you mean by rotary -- no --
Question: And then the second question, which is probably more for the General -- over
the last five days, we've seen anywhere from 89 to 94 flights leave Kabul but
we've seen somewhere between 12, 5 and 21, 6. Can you explain why the number of
evacuations fluctuates so much but the number of flights has remained relatively
MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: Yeah, so I -- I think what you have seen is the -- I'll just
break those in two -- two bins. First, as you look at the U.S. flights -- have
stayed pretty steady, right, in the -- those numbers. You know, as other
countries are coming in, they are evacuating certain numbers, you know, of where
they are in the -- their capability or requirement. So I think that is where
you've seen some of the -- the differences in the outward flow.
And -- and I think, I mean, you'd really have to go back to my number today,
110,000 total. So, you know, as -- as we started, you know, just under -- almost
-- you know, just a few weeks ago, at zero all the way up to 110,000, we would
see some of those numbers start to -- to come down.
MR. KIRBY: Let me go back to the phones. Sam LaGrone?
Question: Hey, John. As -- as part of the exit, is it the U.S. intention to leave a --
a functioning airport with, like, radars that work, computers that work? I mean,
what's -- what's the obligation for what you all leave behind? Thanks.
MR. KIRBY: The airport is functioning, Sam, and we're going to need it to
continue to function right up until the very end. So I think the general
assumption is as we -- as we depart, I mean, we're going to need to depart from
a -- a functional, completely operational airport. That's our assumption going
forward, that it'll -- -- that'll be operational right up until -- until we're
And as you probably heard Secretary Blinken say the other day, the -- that we're
working with the international community. There are several nations that want to
contribute to the effort to keep it operational and that are willing to work
with the Taliban to that end. Certainly I'd let them speak to that effort.
Question: Taliban [inaudible] operations against ISIS aside, any future things or
whatever, do you have any assessment of what ISIS fighters at the prisons --
that they may have taken action against or killed, other than some of the ones
that we know about?
MR. KIRBY: I do not.
Question: Is that something that's knowable, like, that you guys have sought to find
out and can't find out ...
MR. KIRBY: I don't know if that's knowable, Gordon. I mean, I'm happy to take
that question but I don't want to raise expectations here on our level of the
granularity of intelligence we may have gotten from these -- these prison
releases. I -- I don't want to over-promise here. I'm happy to ask that question
but I can't promise you a good answer.
Question: Thank you, John. The 50,000 SIV capacity that you referenced earlier, can we
expect those folks to be processed at the same four -- in the same four states
that previously were reported, or will it be the capacity beyond -- I think it's
New Jersey, Virginia, Texas and Wisconsin?
MR. KIRBY: No, I think I added some extra facilities here to -- today that I --
that I -- one -- one's in New Mexico, Holloman Air Force Base, and then two in
Virginia, Quantico and Fort Pickett, and the Secretary's been clear that if we
need more because the demand's there, that we'll work with the states and we'll
work with the services to identify potential future U.S. military installations,
but those are the ones that we are operating from now.
Question: And as a quick follow up -- currently, it's a 14 step process to get the SIV
application validated. Given the security challenges yesterday, is -- is there
going to be a change in where those are processed? Are those entirely folks
being processed overseas and then brought to U.S. bases for, you know, final
MR. KIRBY: I -- I honestly can't answer that question, Nayera. That's really
what -- for the State Department. They run the SIV process. It's not a
Department of Defense equity.
Question: Thank you, John. May I ask the General please -- thank you. Sorry, next time
I will bring more.
President Biden said that -- also the -- I mean, President Biden said, also the
-- General McKenzie said yesterday that he had consulted with international
partners. Has he discussed about military options with the international
partners or our allies, including South Korea? What are the primary -- U.S.
primary military options?
MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: Yeah, so I -- I can't speak for General McKenzie and the --
you know, the discussions, other than what he said yesterday, is, you know,
continuing to coordinate with all of our, you know, allies and partners that are
helping us with this right now, is extremely important.
You know, to the ability to continue to synchronize all of the airlift that
continues to come in and, you know, ensuring that as timing goes forward, all of
that is well planned together is extremely important.
I -- I think I'd have to turn it over to -- back to General McKenzie for any of
those other specifics -- questions, so.
Question: And -- and another one -- what are the U.S' special wishes for our allies and
international partners? Do you have any wishes for -- from them?
MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: Say -- I'm sorry, I -- I ...
Question: ... what -- what wishes do you ...
MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: You know, from a -- from the operational side, I think our
wish -- are -- is -- just like I said earlier, is continue that -- the support
and the work together, as we continue this mission forward, is extremely
important. Thank you.
Question: Can I -- can I follow up, sir, about something that Gordon asked about, which
is I have been hearing some reports that there have been some attacks by ISIS-K
against Taliban checkpoints in the city. Are you seeing any evidence of attacks
that ISIS-K is attacking those Taliban checkpoints?
MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: I have not seen those reports.
Question: And can you give us any more clarification on the sharing of American
citizens' information, as well as SIV information with the Taliban? There were
reports yesterday that the U.S. officials were sharing that information.
MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: Yeah, I don't think there is sharing information, as you would
say in that question, of, like, we were giving information. What information is
very important right now is at the ground level to ensure that as people
approach checkpoints, that those Taliban checkpoint leaders have and understand
who's coming, what documentation they're supposed to have, and go cause that's
really important for us, to ensure the time that people are not in areas and
just, you know, staying there for long periods of time. You know, the commanders
on the ground are continuing to coordinate how do we continue to increase that
throughput through checkpoints, through gates to get on HKIA as fast as we can,
that's very safe, you know, to get them there. Thanks.
MR. KIRBY: Meghan?
Question: How many troops -- U.S. troops are still on the ground at HKAIA? And how has
the security posture at the gates changed? Are there more or fewer troops going
in and out of the gates? Is there more overwatch of the crowd for -- for
MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: So kind of back -- what Mr. Kirby said earlier as we talked
about troop numbers and capability. Capability does -- has not changed for us to
secure all the gates, to be able to process evacuees and our ability to rapidly
turn aircraft as they arrive and get those out. And as we talk about force
protection at the gate, I'm not going to get into the specific TTPs that those,
you know, junior leaders are taking down there, other than we continue to learn
every day from the day before, and we work within all -- all the capabilities we
have to ensure, one, that we can continue people to come in, but also stay safe.
Question: When you say "continue to learn", does that mean that you have switched
things up in order to make it more safe?
MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: I would say patterns are things that we -- to -- we try not
to, you know, get into. So you know, I would just tell you, as the most simple
operational piece there, we're always doing things that we can to keep us safe
and -- and not create patterns.
MR. KIRBY: I'd only add to that, Meghan, as I mentioned to Barb, you know, but
we still have active threat streams and we're taking steps that we believe are
appropriate to those -- to the streams, and I think I'd leave it at that.
And I want to foot-stomp the boots on the ground number. As the general
mentioned in his opening statement today, more than 5,000 today. We are not
going to get in, going forward, to a daily count of what's on the ground, just
going forward, as we get closer now to the end of the month and the end of the
mission. Don't -- don't expect daily updates on what -- exactly how many troops
are there at any given moment.
Question: Yeah, so now, when you said that there was going to be an investigation of --
into what happened yesterday, were you talking about a full, like a criminal
inquiry with forensics people on the ground and interviewing possible witnesses?
Who would be doing that, and how do you do that in the middle of a war zone?
MR. KIRBY: I don't -- I wouldn't characterize it as a criminal investigation,
but it'll be as comprehensive as General McKenzie needs it to be to -- to try to
do the forensics here and figure out what happened and what we can learn from it
going forward. It'll be a -- a very complete, thorough investigation. It'll --
and I will leave it to General McKenzie to describe for you sort of the
architecture of what that's going to be. But it's -- it's not like we haven't,
sadly, had to do this before.
MR. KIRBY: And we know how to conduct these investigations.
Yes, sir, you...
Question: Thank you very much, Mr. Kirby. [inaudible] communication network and
[inaudible]. These U.S. service members doing incredible job with sacrificing
their life. With consideration of that, my question is some [inaudible]
strategic. Do you think the removal from Afghanistan, it will reduce your
control within the Indo-Pacific, the U.S. control?
MR. KIRBY: It's not about U.S. control in the Indo-Pacific; it's about
protecting our country from threats and challenges that emanate from that part
of the world, and it's about revitalizing our network of alliances and
partnerships to help our -- our partners in the international community do the
same. That's why the Secretary's first trip was to the region. He just came back
from the region. The Vice President just returned literally this morning from
the region. We are laser-focused on the Indo-Pacific and the -- the security
challenges, as well as the opportunities that are there. It's not about U.S.
control; it's about U.S. partnership.
Sylvie, you've been very patient.
Question: I -- I know you -- you don't want to speak about the details of the
circumstances of the attack. But can you tell us if it was at the gate itself,
or in the middle of the crowd, or at a checkpoint? Was the guy walking or he was
in a bus? Can you give us a little – some little details?
MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: First, I'll start off with, details are -- continuing to be
collected. It goes back to the question about continuing to learn as much as we
can. Because as you know, when an attack initially starts, you know, you have to
fight the fight, then -- and we're at right now, ensuring, you know, the respect
and dignity of our -- our wounded and those that were killed in action, so...
But as we look at the details, at approximately -- as we saw yesterday, at about
17:40 Kabul time, there was what we reported as a -- a suicide-borne vest there
that was exploded right at and around the gate. We don't know the exact
location, you know. But it was right outside the vicinity of that gate, and then
followed by direct fire from an any -- enemy position that is not exactly known.
That was outside in what we call just north of that gate area also.
Question: How many assailants were killed? Was it just a suicide bomber plus the
shooter, or how many people [inaudible]?
MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: It just goes back to what I said. Right now, what we know,
there was shooters, you know, shoot -- don't know the exact number, but one with
the suicide vest.
MR. KIRBY: Luis, go ahead. Wait, wait, wait, Gordon. We've already got you.
Luis, go ahead.
Question: Were there any troops killed by that gunfire?
MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: Like I said, we're asking, you know, very detailed questions
about the fight. That -- that will continue to be collected. I can't answer, you
know, numbers of -- that's just, I would say, you know, that could come out. But
just knowing the facts, the incredible, you know, devastation that happened
there, I think we should just leave it there.
MR. KIRBY: Hang on just a second. Go ahead.
Question: I'm sorry. So my question, kind of following on Lita's earlier. Yesterday,
the president said that he will hunt down and basically get revenge on the ISIS
attackers yesterday. Can you just explain to the American public who might be
wondering, "Hey, we had 25 troops on the ground.” What will that look like if we
go into a situation where we're going to go and hunt down these ISIS...?
MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: Yeah. I think, you know, as we look at currently -- I've
already -- I think I've answered that question of, we have, you know, options
there right now that we can, you know, ensure the commander has the ability to
take action as, you know, those opportunities present themself. But I'm not
going to go into, you know, and try to think about the, you know -- how -- a
decision General McKenzie would make in the -- in future operations.
MR. KIRBY: Luis?
Question: Oh, just a quick follow-up on -- on the gunman. Was there more than one
gunman? And was that gunman killed or whatever...?
MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: Like I said, you know, those -- information is still coming
in. I would say what we do know after the fact, there was a, you know, a
suicide-borne IED right there and gunfire. That's -- that's for sure that we
Question: My other question is going to be this: You know, 31 American casualties
overall. That's a significant number at one location. I mean, what -- how can we
explain why they were -- were they concentrated in one area? Was there a shift
change underway? I mean, how -- how is it -- or were they spread apart in one
line, and that's just how the blast was?
MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: Yeah. You know, the -- use a line. This answer's not going to
be, you know, rewarding to you, that -- but it goes back to, you know, the
commander will figure all those out at -- at the due time, right? You know, and
those are the questions that I think are very appropriate, you know, and people,
you know, will want to know this. But right now, what I can tell you is the
commander's continuing to execute the mission and make sure that, you know,
other forces in there can continue there and ensure that those information, as I
think a couple of the questions we answered earlier, will -- will come at the
MR. KIRBY: Terace?
Question: Yes, good morning, John. A question for General Taylor. I know it's been said
numerous times that the focus of the mission is to get evacuees and Americans
out as quickly as possible. But for those that were injured during the attack
yesterday and taken to the local hospital, has there been any talks about
setting up security for those individuals? I'm hearing reports on the ground
that there are concerns that ISIS may attack that hospital. So are there any
talks to possibly help keep those Afghans -- civilians, excuse me, safe from a
potential attack? And then once they are well enough to travel, how will they
get to the U.S. as well?
MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: You're talking about Afghans that were injured in the attack.
First of all what I can report is that there were some Afghans there that were a
part of that were treated by U.S. and other forces immediately there. I'm not
fully aware of the reports of -- on the hospitals in Kabul because I do know
that there were Afghans taken to multiple locations in Kabul.
MR. KIRBY: There is time for just a couple more. Yes, ma'am.
Question: Mr. Kirby, you said that lives are the priority. So my question is pretty
straight forward. Should the U.S. or should Americans expect more U.S.
casualties in the next few days?
MR. KIRBY: We obviously don't want to see any more casualties that why we are
monitoring the threat streams very closely and taking what we believe are the
best possible steps to prevent another tragedy like this from happening. I mean
that's obvious -- the Secretary was -- made that very clear to leadership last
night and this morning. That force protection will remain a paramount --
obviously a paramount concerns as it always does.
Question: And just to add to that, apparently, there's a bottleneck at Dulles Airport
with these -- the U.S. airlines coming in with refugees at Dulles Airport. Are
you aware of this? Or are refugees being stuck on the tarmac for hours and
MR. KIRBY: Yes, we are aware of those reports and they have proven accurate in
the last couple of days. It's really more an issue for Customs and Border Patrol
and the process. So I don't want to speak to them or their process. But as we
understand it this morning they have worked through the difficulties and we
believe that wait time now upon landing is going to get much, much shorter.
But I would refer you to my colleagues at Customs and Border Patrol to speak to
OK, thanks very much. One more, go ahead.
Question: How many Afghan SIV have been flown out so far? Or are there Afghans without
green cards or permanent status?
MR. KIRBY: Check me on this but we looked at the number just before coming out.
It's just -- we have just under 7,000 now that are in the states and being
processed. And that number will change every day obviously as it should.
OK, thanks everybody. We'll see you again at -- I'm sorry, I said 3 o'clock,
it's 3:30 this afternoon. General VanHerck will be joining me. I do apologize
for the delay this morning. We were getting updates literally as we were getting
ready to come out to see you. We'll do the best we can to be more punctual. But,
thanks, all, see you later.
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